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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:33 pm 
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If you are taking a break from AB to rejoin the group, why not rule out all solitary MB? That may keep the chances for a WD higher, as well as make it easier to return to AB later.

This break from AB might also be a chance to compare the intensity of your WDs to MB. Although from your descriptions, it seems like your WDs were becoming increasingly more intense and longer lasting compared to MB.


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Texanguy wrote:
If you are taking a break from AB to rejoin the group, why not rule out all solitary MB? That may keep the chances for a WD higher, as well as make it easier to return to AB later.

This break from AB might also be a chance to compare the intensity of your WDs to MB. Although from your descriptions, it seems like your WDs were becoming increasingly more intense and longer lasting compared to MB.


Thanks for the tip Texanguy! I was also curious to see the differences in intensity between my wds and mb. So far, I haven't done mb by myself, but rather with my bros and the points of ejaculation were always caused by someone else's hand so I actually haven't really had any solitary mb.

Due to this, maybe that is why my balls do still feel a bit full and heavy. I haven't mb'd alone, any ejaculation I've had since I started the break has been due to my bros. Maybe I'll still be able to have a wd if I stray away from solitary mb?

Also, the first orgasm/ejaculation that I had since starting my ab break was probably the most intense one that I've ever had in my life. It was due to one of my bros stroking me and I shot out about 12 shots. The cum consistency wasn't thick, but not too watery so a kind of in between. The orgasms itself was very intense, but lasted maybe only about 20-30 seconds as opposed to up to a minute via wd. The contractions also happened a lot more quickly than during a wd and it feels like there were more of them. I think that this was because it was someone's else's hand that was stroking me. Normally, when the feelings get very intense, I tend to slow down on the intensity of stroking, but my bro didn't.

I'm going to continue to not engage in solitary mb for now, and see what happens if I only cum via someone else during this ab break. Maybe I'll still be able to have a wd?

On to the next day!


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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:54 am 
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Maybe I'll still be able to have a wd if I stay away from solitary mb?
It seems quite possible that WDs will be more likely, since in a way you would still be ABing. Besides, wouldn't the 'group stuff' be more fun and exciting if you never resort to solitary MB the whole time?

And wouldn't it be easier to go back to total AB and WDs when you go back to school if you never actually MB'd yourself even once during your whole vacation?


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Texanguy wrote:
atomixism wrote:
It seems quite possible that WDs will be more likely, since in a way you would still be ABing. Besides, wouldn't the 'group stuff' be more fun and exciting if you never resort to solitary MB the whole time?

And wouldn't it be easier to go back to total AB and WDs when you go back to school if you never actually MB'd yourself even once during your whole vacation?


Yes, that certainly seems like it's very plausible. I'll try this method out and see what happens!


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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:37 pm 
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Can I ask how your bros feel about your ABing? I assume they know about it? Have you recommended it to them?

Also, by "bros", I assume you mean flatmates?


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Can I ask how your bros feel about your ABing? I assume they know about it? Have you recommended it to them?

Also, by "bros", I assume you mean flatmates?


Yeah, they do know about it. They thought that it was interesting and were really supportive of me during the process. I did recommend them trying it, but they love mb too much, lol.

And these are guys that I've known since I was younger. We pretty much grew up together.


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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:14 pm 
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And these are guys that I've known since I was younger. We pretty much grew up together.


Dude, I finally got through your whole log, and I have to say that it is amazing! Very insightful as well as encouraging.

Also, I adore the fact that you have such close male friends that you guys love mutual MB sessions. I wish more guys had that kind of relationship with each other! Quick question, though, out of sheer curiosity: Are you guys gay, straight, or bi?

I mean no offense, but only that it would be fantastic if you were all straight but still enjoyed mutual MB. It would give me hope that more straight men are coming around and finally getting over the ridiculous prudishness and "homophobia" that has really destroyed male bonding and intimacy this past half century.

All that said, I wish I had bros like yours! Also, thank you for sharing your experiences with this log! It's so very encouraging and educational. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:24 am 
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I totally agree with Gilgamesh, your log is very encouraging and a real inspiration to whom never experienced WDs.
Thank you for sharing your experience, Atomixism! :text-bravo:


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Gilgamesh04 wrote:
Dude, I finally got through your whole log, and I have to say that it is amazing! Very insightful as well as encouraging.

Also, I adore the fact that you have such close male friends that you guys love mutual MB sessions. I wish more guys had that kind of relationship with each other! Quick question, though, out of sheer curiosity: Are you guys gay, straight, or bi?

I mean no offense, but only that it would be fantastic if you were all straight but still enjoyed mutual MB. It would give me hope that more straight men are coming around and finally getting over the ridiculous prudishness and "homophobia" that has really destroyed male bonding and intimacy this past half century.

All that said, I wish I had bros like yours! Also, thank you for sharing your experiences with this log! It's so very encouraging and educational. :D


Thanks for the kind words Gilgamesh! I'm glad that you enjoyed reading through my log. Welcome to the forum and I look forward to seeing your updates!

As for my bros, two are straight, one is bi, and the other two of us are gay. It's a pretty interesting mix, lol.


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I totally agree with Gilgamesh, your log is very encouraging and a real inspiration to whom never experienced WDs.
Thank you for sharing your experience, Atomixism! :text-bravo:


Thank you very much fkfk! I'm glad you enjoyed the log and wish you good luck in your ab journey! I look forward to your updates!


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atomixism wrote:
As for my bros, two are straight, one is bi, and the other two of us are gay. It's a pretty interesting mix, lol.


That is quite the ecclectic group. And perfectly balanced, too! Lol And so the two straight ones join in the fun with as much gusto as everyone else (besides you, the AB-ing "stick in the mud")? That is awesome! :clap:

And thanks! I can't wait to be so far along in my AB-ing. Just trying to take it a day at a time. No real dangers from temptation yet, but I think rounding out the week might be the hardest. I think Day 6 might be when I crumbled last time I tried. Not this time, though! Nope! :naughty:


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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
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Call me old-fashioned, but I am afraid my mind is reeling.

These are (1) regular mutual MB sessions with (2) all your flatmates in the same flat in the same room at the same time? Honest? Regularly? Um, nude? My mind is spinning. How does this happen? Have I misunderstood?


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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
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Just wanted to put a little update in my log! I've taken a little break from ab, so I've had orgasms and ejaculations the last couple weekends. Interestingly enough, neither of them were caused by my own hand, but by someone else's. So though I may be off of general ab, I can technically say that it's Day 150 of ab from solitary mb.

Interestingly enough, although I've ejaculated and had orgasms, my balls still feel larger and more full than when I would solitary mb. The only thing that's really changed is that I'm not leaking after peeing recently. I'm wondering if this means that I'll be able to still have wd's, it would be interesting to see and I'd definitely let you guys know!


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I remember a time when I 'needed' to get off, and I came to realize that it's not a need, but a habit we've just indulged for a long time, like with a lot of other things in our lives. I think a body may just give up on WD's because it rehabituates its response to how we've treated it for such a long time. I think it may still be possible for you during your break, but let happen whatever's going to happen. If you're enjoying your waking ejaculations right now, your body may just be in a higher state of arousal at this time of the year.


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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
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Just wanted to do a log update!

HAD A WD!

:happy-jumpeveryone:

It would be technically Day 160 of ab from solitary mb, so that's interesting to say the least! What's even more interesting is that I actually came during a group session just the day before this wd happened! I wonder if my body's adjusted to having wd's now even in spite of mb? This would mark about 25 days since my last wd, so I wonder if my body's adjusted to this general amount of time before a self-emission?

I'm going to keep at ab from self-mb for as long as possible to see what happens next!

On to the next day!

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Congrats and good luck with the next wd.

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Congrats on your latest wd, Atomixism! I admire your perseverance and am so happy that it has paid off for you once again.


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Congrats and good luck with the next wd.


Thanks a lot mack! I appreciate the support!


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Can you tell us anything about the dream?


Yeah sure, Jamie. I remember that it dealt with me docking with an uncut guy. Kinda playing around and moving the foreskin back and forth. It felt better and better until the wd happened. Then I woke up to the slow contractions similar to my previous wd's as it slowly squeezed out the semen.


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Congrats on your latest wd, Atomixism! I admire your perseverance and am so happy that it has paid off for you once again.


Thanks a lot cumbackid! Your support means a lot to me!


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Congratulations on another WD! It seems likely that your lack of solitary MB has helped train your brain to resort to dreams similar to waking events in order to ejaculate, rather than focus in solitary MB as the alternative.

How are the feelings in these WDs compared to MB, assuming you can remember that much about the feelings of MB?


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atomixism wrote:
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Yeah sure, Jamie. I remember that it dealt with me docking with an uncut guy. Kinda playing around and moving the foreskin back and forth. It felt better and better until the wd happened. Then I woke up to the slow contractions similar to my previous wd's as it slowly squeezed out the semen.


Strangely I've never had a dream that explicit or realistic in its detail. The few "gay" wet dreams I've had were things like I catch sight of a bulge in someone's sweatpants and suddenly I feel the pulsations - no touching or anything. The one I can remember that shocked me because there was contact was the abstract one where the upper torso of some guy appeared to loom up from under the covers over me and his penis came to rest on mine but just lingered there as I "felt" a sort of slippery swirling sensation down there prior to the contractions - so that is what I mean about the scenarios not being realistic or the sensations matching what they would be in real life.


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Congratulations, Atomixism! It seems like your body is dictating its pace, and that results in fairly regular emissions. I'm happy for your success!


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hey,
congrats for your WD, i hope i will have one soon day 66.....


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Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 12 May 2017
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It's been about a month since I resumed normal mb and wanted to do a quick log update!

IT'S ANOTHER WD FOR THE RECORD!

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I ended my complete ab from solo mb a few week ago in order to see if my body had completely adjusted to this 3-4 week regular emission schedule. So far, it looks like I am having wd's at around that interval. Even though I ejaculate via mb, I still have a feeling of fullness and don't feel drained or anything like I did before I started my ab run.

I'll continue on this routine of regular mb of once or twice a week and see if the regular wd's continue.

On to the next day!

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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:27 pm 
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Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Nude - no underwear
Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: no
If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 4-5 hours
Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 16 Jun 2016
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:text-bravo:
congrats atom, i'm glad to see that MB and WD works well for you.
i'm on day 84 of AB, and still waiting :crying-blue:
btw: are you a grey Hanes briefs addict or are they just magic briefs for WD :text-imsorry: :text-lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:44 pm 
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Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Nude - no underwear
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If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 4-5 hours
Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 10 Oct 2014
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That's cool that you got a WD in spite of some MB.

But I think for some guys the positive effects and feelings of AB would be reduced by occasional MB. Some guys on AB enjoy the controlled horniness and other effects and want them to continue. Many ABers seem to enjoy sleeping nude and even extend it into the daytime when convenient. Even occasional MB can take away from that. I think it's also appealing to some guys to completely replace MB with WDs as their outlet.

It's also reasonable that total AB from MB would both increase the frequency and intensity of the WDs over time.

But to each his own. If you enjoy the mix of MB and WDs, go for it! And congratulations on another WD!


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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
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Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 14 Feb 2018
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Wow, congrats! Just curious, how often did you get WD's before your original AB run, before you began this log?

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 Post subject: Re: Atomixism's Log
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charlythemoose wrote:
:text-bravo:
congrats atom, i'm glad to see that MB and WD works well for you.
i'm on day 84 of AB, and still waiting :crying-blue:
btw: are you a grey Hanes briefs addict or are they just magic briefs for WD :text-imsorry: :text-lol:


Thanks charley! I actually didn't realize, but I have a bunch of lighter colored briefs like that. Maybe they are magic? Lol


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