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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:17 am 
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Day 1

I am starting a new path to my refusal Mb and PMO.
I decided not to focus on the WD, not try to artificially create or cause. But if WD will have a place in my life, then I want to try to study this phenomenon.
It seems to me that it will be easier when you don't expect anything, and you have no disappointment from what you've already had a month of Ab, and WD no, if to dwell on this, then this is for you reduces the value of refusal PMO, and more will often cause relapse .
If you know that it is possible , but not to wait for him and the meaning of Ab is slightly different then.
I want my body, and nature itself decided whether I need to experience my first WD.

So I'll focus just on complete abstinence from PMO, and so far the only natural process SE for me is sex. And there we will see.

I hope that there will be people who will support me in this, and I wonder as a waiver of PMO change or not my life.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:14 am 
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Day 2.

About my day to tell is not the case. There was nothing interesting, as well as at night.
There were a couple of interesting thoughts today, but tomorrow will tell.


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Good luck. We're rooting for you! :greetings-clappingyellow:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:25 am 
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Day 3

As usual today. Anything interesting and new. So share only yesterday's thoughts.
So, a few interesting observations.
First, when after abstinence cum more than once, you feel that all processes are faster than once. Probably sperm production is faster.
Second, the desire for porn occurs personally got more out of boredom and when I sit at the computer all looked what he wanted, then there is a desire to watch porn. Conclusion: we must clearly understand what you turn the computer on. Did what he wanted and immediately turn off until I got thinking about porn.
Third, I do a lot of reading about WD and pondered on account of their nature and what affects them. I would like to draw your conclusions to which I came:
WD is a psychophysical phenomenon. I think that equally affect the emotional background of the person, and physiological factors. Based on the fact that emission occur in adolescents, the level of testosterone affects more than food, and the level of fluid in the body is also affected.
Also has the effect of physical activity, and emotional stress. I think that both adolescents as it goes equally often, whereas with age,is already a more pronounced variation in this issue.

Now to the influence of porn on WD. As far as I know, there is evidence that porn reduces the level of testosterone in the male body. Based on this, the man who for a long time watching porn, is irreversible decrease in the level of testosterone that makes WD unlikely more and more.
Besides, is produced reflex of the body porn = orgasm and SE . Just as when a person starts to live a constant sexual life or Mb, as laid certain psychological triggers of the relationship.
So to reduce WD factors reduce testosterone and adrenaline in the blood, and these triggers. When there is a disturbance in trigerred is refusing PMO and Mb, then the body is forced to look for discharge through other methods.
What we have in my context. The apparent reduction in testosterone levels which I had a PMO. I just started to feel just a year ago + psychological binding SE to PMO strong enough, although in recent years more and more I refrained it from PMO, more than Masturbation.
From this we can think about what you can do in order to gradually restore the testosterone level I, and remove the psychological triggers which I have formed in the process of life.
This is why not all and not always can try WD, because it is a complex of measures can cause not one thing.
while these are common thoughts. I'll have to try them or to approve or deny during my Ab.


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I like how you're using the scientific method here. :-)


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I like how you're using the scientific method here. :-)

Thanks. I hope that soon I can be more specific to say that, for me, is the main factors for WD.

Day 4.

Nothing new and interesting in order to describe it. Nothing really happens. There is a small desire to watch porn, but I cope with them. But I feel that soon they will grow. I hope I will be able to overcome them.


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Hey, we're both on Day Four. Cool! :happy-partydance:


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:23 am 
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Day 5

Absolutely nothing happens, no excitement and no spontaneous erections, no thoughts about porn and Mb. Even strangely all this..


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:26 am 
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iroselyem wrote:
Hey, we're both on Day Four. Cool! :happy-partydance:

It's Cool. Even if WD will come in one night, it would be very cool! But me about WD while you can only dream of.

Good luck to you , not us, in our processes Ab!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:54 am 
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Day 6.

This is the strangest abstinence in my life, that occurs without excitation brand. And without the desire to Mb and watch porn. :confusion-shrug:
I've been thinking about whether I am healthy. :text-lol:

Although today had some discomfort in the lower abdomen and in my balls.
Can sleep interferes with, or maybe something else. In General so far from WD I is clearly very far.
But the more practice abstinence, the less me receive the desires of the PMO, this is the only thing that makes me very happy in this situation.


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Maybe your body is just tired of all of the stimulation from before, so it's taking a break.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:43 am 
Hey I'm on day 6 as well! Keep it up! (Pardon the pun).


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iroselyem wrote:
Maybe your body is just tired of all of the stimulation from before, so it's taking a break.



This is very similar to the truth. Tonight when I sleep 9 hours, so the body has woken up, probably 5-6 hours him very little for me.


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Hey I'm on day 6 as well! Keep it up! (Pardon the pun).

Hello, it is cool! I would be betting on who will last longer :banana-dance:


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Day 7

Before I went to sleep yesterday, I went to the toilet and had a leak, when I poop . It was a surprise for me. After the leak, I felt excitement.

Tonight I for the second time in a week I slept a full 9 hours. And in the morning got 2 times precum in my pants, and good feelings in the dream. I was even close to the pre orgasmic state, but woke up. I was very Horny after I woke up. And it was not easy to restrain myself from Mb, but I was able to do it. :banana-dance:


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Here I decided to post a picture of his boxers with spots after night.

In the afternoon I had another small leak during a visit to the toilet.
It has already become the norm. And I feel that my balls are full, and it gives some discomfort.


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Wow has established a porn filter and now even this site has been blocked as YouTube and many more of any sites. :banana-dance: :happy-partydance:


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Now to the influence of porn on WD. As far as I know, there is evidence that porn reduces the level of testosterone in the male body. Based on this, the man who for a long time watching porn, is irreversible decrease in the level of testosterone that makes WD unlikely more and more.


I've been looking for negative information about porn in order to take away the positive feelings I have for it. If it does in fact lower testosterone this would certainly make me look at it differently. Do you have any proof that it decreases testosterone? Also, is it porn that decreases testosterone, or masturbation that decreases testosterone? I ask, because I think that 99 percent of those that look at porn masturbate. So it might actually be masturbation that decreases testosterone(which there is plenty of anecdotal evidence for) and not porn.

Also, I would like to add that in my case watching porn long term had zero effect on my ability to have wet dreams. I've been watching it long before I had my first ejaculation yet after just 18 days of ABing from PMO I had my first wet dream. In addition, I had 4 within my first two months. This suggests to me that porn doesn't hinder a persons capacity for wet dreams, because if it did, I would never have had a WD in the first place. I still don't know why some have more wet dreams than others(aside from frequency of masturbation), but I'm intrigued by it, and have been trying to look into the reason. However, I feel pretty confident in saying that I don't think long term porn viewing is going to diminish a persons ability to have wet dreams. There are even some on this site that have surmised that watching porn INCREASED their frequency of wet dreams(without masturbation mind you).


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:31 am 
kingkoopa wrote:
I've been looking for negative information about porn in order to take away the positive feelings I have for it. If it does in fact lower testosterone this would certainly make me look at it differently. Do you have any proof that it decreases testosterone? Also, is it porn that decreases testosterone, or masturbation that decreases testosterone? I ask, because I think that 99 percent of those that look at porn masturbate. So it might actually be masturbation that decreases testosterone(which there is plenty of anecdotal evidence for) and not porn.


I'm no expert but I would think that it's the PMO link that decreases testosterone. Just watching a video cannot, as far as I'm aware, actually decrease your testosterone-at least not in any measurable amount. But the act of then MBing to the porn is what decreases it and unfortunately porn tends to lead people to MB.


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kingkoopa wrote:
I've been looking for negative information about porn in order to take away the positive feelings I have for it. If it does in fact lower testosterone this would certainly make me look at it differently. Do you have any proof that it decreases testosterone? Also, is it porn that decreases testosterone, or masturbation that decreases testosterone? I ask, because I think that 99 percent of those that look at porn masturbate. So it might actually be masturbation that decreases testosterone(which there is plenty of anecdotal evidence for) and not porn.


I'm no expert but I would think that it's the PMO link that decreases testosterone. Just watching a video cannot, as far as I'm aware, actually decrease your testosterone-at least not in any measurable amount. But the act of then MBing to the porn is what decreases it and unfortunately porn tends to lead people to MB.


Exactly right. So, in other words, it's not the porn that decreases testosterone, but masturbation instead. Meaning, it doesn't matter if you ejaculate to porn or to your imagination, either way you'd be depleting testosterone through masturbation.


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EdWD wrote:
Day 3


Now to the influence of porn on WD. As far as I know, there is evidence that porn reduces the level of testosterone in the male body. Based on this, the man who for a long time watching porn, is irreversible decrease in the level of testosterone that makes WD unlikely more and more.


I've been looking for negative information about porn in order to take away the positive feelings I have for it. If it does in fact lower testosterone this would certainly make me look at it differently. Do you have any proof that it decreases testosterone? Also, is it porn that decreases testosterone, or masturbation that decreases testosterone? I ask, because I think that 99 percent of those that look at porn masturbate. So it might actually be masturbation that decreases testosterone(which there is plenty of anecdotal evidence for) and not porn.

Also, I would like to add that in my case watching porn long term had zero effect on my ability to have wet dreams. I've been watching it long before I had my first ejaculation yet after just 18 days of ABing from PMO I had my first wet dream. In addition, I had 4 within my first two months. This suggests to me that porn doesn't hinder a persons capacity for wet dreams, because if it did, I would never have had a WD in the first place. I still don't know why some have more wet dreams than others(aside from frequency of masturbation), but I'm intrigued by it, and have been trying to look into the reason. However, I feel pretty confident in saying that I don't think long term porn viewing is going to diminish a persons ability to have wet dreams. There are even some on this site that have surmised that watching porn INCREASED their frequency of wet dreams(without masturbation mind you).


I think that in itself is porn not reduces the level of testosterone in moderation. In the long view it lowers testosterone levels definitely. I read the source in Russian that scientists have proven that the abuse porn definitely reduces the level of T. All good and useful in moderation.
Another thing, when porn has a close relationship with Mb, and laid the psychological dependence of these two things. I.e. the fact PMO definitely reduces the level of T.
The same account, the process of the Mb, if it's in moderation, and the person has sexual contact, it can not appear at the level of T, and other issues of sexual health. But if it becomes a direct replacement for sex, and when there is a choice between these two things, it was having a negative impact on the psychological and then physical health.


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Day 8.
Thanks for your opinions and questions.
The night was a mistake, although compared to last night, I got to the point when WD was very close. Yes and arousal and erections were not as strong this night.
Perhaps this is due to the fact that I have dropped dramatically in physical activity in the last time. And began to notice a drop amount of the used pure water. Perhaps this is due to the drop in air temperature.
Everything as usual. I think I begin to observe a sinusoidal movement process excitability. Perhaps there is a drop in the level of T in the body.


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Day 9.
Nothing happened. Had some stress associated with the financial question. Just hit your daily routine and nutrition. Not the best way affected the health.
There is no desire no porn or Masturbation.

Day 10.
There is absolutely nothing new that could be described. There is no desire neither Mb nor porn still. There are some issues with the work and the Bank, so that depression occurs.


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Hey, Ed, I'm sorry to hear about your financial troubles. I hope everything works out. Hang in there.


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Day 9.
Nothing happened. Had some stress associated with the financial question. Just hit your daily routine and nutrition. Not the best way affected the health.
There is no desire no porn or Masturbation.

Day 10.
There is absolutely nothing new that could be described. There is no desire neither Mb nor porn still. There are some issues with the work and the Bank, so that depression occurs.


Feeling sorry for your trouble. Keep it going. I will be rooting for you.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:29 am 
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Average time to orgasm/ejaculation normally: 15
Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Boxer briefs
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iroselyem wrote:
Hey, Ed, I'm sorry to hear about your financial troubles. I hope everything works out. Hang in there.


Thank you for your support. I hope that soon all be resolved in the best option for me.
dumbfaith wrote:
Feeling sorry for your trouble. Keep it going. I will be rooting for you.


Thank you for your support. It is a pity that I did not come earlier, because today I had a failure time of abstinence.

Guys, really nice that it can support in difficult moments.

But today I was so horny in the morning that you be more comfortable condition I have, I would be able to overcome their desires. But my brain demanded psychological discharge, and next was nobody, and cases was not 2 hours. And I had again PMO incident...
It's sad, and that after it there was no relief of my psychological state.

Day 0.

I start another attempt today.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:39 am 
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EdWD wrote:
iroselyem wrote:
Hey, Ed, I'm sorry to hear about your financial troubles. I hope everything works out. Hang in there.


Thank you for your support. I hope that soon all be resolved in the best option for me.
dumbfaith wrote:
Feeling sorry for your trouble. Keep it going. I will be rooting for you.


Thank you for your support. It is a pity that I did not come earlier, because today I had a failure time of abstinence.

Guys, really nice that it can support in difficult moments.

But today I was so horny in the morning that you be more comfortable condition I have, I would be able to overcome their desires. But my brain demanded psychological discharge, and next was nobody, and cases was not 2 hours. And I had again PMO incident...
It's sad, and that after it there was no relief of my psychological state.

Day 0.

I start another attempt today.


It's totally fine. Keep it working.
Just remember the regret you felt and the moment why you choose to PMO, this time, try to avoid the regret by leaving no room for the PMO situation you were just in.
Rooting for you here.
(Hello from Taiwan.)

30 year old Virgin


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:45 pm 
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Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Boxer briefs
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Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 06 Feb 2017
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I think, that I'll start my new Ab 1st septembr. I not have any motivation now, and it's so sad for me. I realy want finde any motivation to start, but I have hard Depresion now... :angry-banghead:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:11 pm 
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EdWD wrote:
I think, that I'll start my new Ab 1st septembr. I not have any motivation now, and it's so sad for me. I realy want finde any motivation to start, but I have hard Depresion now... :angry-banghead:


Just don't let the depression beat you down. While ABing, it sometimes is really easy bothersome and irritating to us because our body is experiencing some sort of a changing process.

Our balls will be full and we will feel the reproductive urge and which may lead us to be more active and straight forward to do things.(Or even the greater desire to PMO.) Whenever there is a strong urge, go get a cold drink or a cold shower will cool your fire down a little bit. Keep in mind that you are strong enough to control your own body and you may act upon your own will instead of the sexual urge/drive.

Now I am on Day 10 of 3rd streak. Most of the time, I can feel that I am getting a small but random boner very easily and certainly I would feel like to MB. However, I try to convince myself that there will be a greater prize for me --WD. MB will bring and fulfill temporary fantasy and desire; WD will bring the most beautiful/real fantasy that we have been longing for since long time ago. That is also a reason I feel like I would like to stay on AB. (AB is hard sometimes. -Pun unintended.) Yet it will be totally worth it.

Just find a reason to convince yourself and I believe that you can AB very well.
We will always be here rooting for you. We are all in this and we root for you.

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