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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:27 pm 
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For the last several weeks I've been MBing almost every day. I try to minimize ejaculation as much as possible by stopping all stimulation just as I reach the point of no return. This results in an intense orgasm, but only one or two drops of semen. No attempt is made to hold the semen in by manually compressing the urethra. At least I'm not always running on empty. I'll AB again, but for now, a break is enjoyable.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:01 am 
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Perhaps one way to make AB easier is to experiment with MB in different forms until you get tired of it. You said you'll AB again, and you already know that it can feel better than endless MB/letdown cycles.

Perhaps 'going natural' isn't so much about counting the days as it is a lifestyle choice. Extra energy, better workouts, more dedication to diet, and controlled horniness may simply be superior to being an MBer. And if you finally start getting WDs, you'll be putting some icing on the cake.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:37 pm 
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After a break, I'm back again. Today is day 21 of no touch, no release. My goal, which will not be easy to attain, is to never masturbate again. My only release would be SE, WD or sex with a person. Since I've only had one SE (age about 14), no WDs, and am not having sex at this time, it could be a long dry spell. I do believe that after a long period of not ejaculating, I leak small amounts of semen while urinating.

I've said this in past posts, and am repeating so I can read this post again later: THERE IS NEVER A NEED TO MB. There can be tremendous urges or desire, but never a need. Physically my body can take care of itself. Mentally it will require self discipline and strong motivation. So I must seriously take it one day at a time. I have learned that strong urges can, and will pass if I am determined and patient.

At some point I should probably stop counting days. This is just the way life is... every day.

So today I will not MB.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:24 pm 
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I was wondering if you'd ever come back, but welcome back!

I think you paint a pretty negative picture of AB. Check out the new topic: who here like the constant horniness that comes with AB?
The last entry is by Kevin, an older guy who finally quit MB and has wet dreams and posted "I love the horny feeling & not masturbating"

There may indeed be temptations to MB at times, but they will diminish. I think guys can reach the point where the controlled horniness, extra energy, etc from AB simply feels better and is more natural than engaging in endless MB/letdown cycles. The 'secret' that MB addicts don't know about is that it can actually feel better not to MB.

So good luck on your journey, but also enjoy it!


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:13 pm 
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Thanks for the info, Texanguy.

Day 22

I'm trying not to have a negative attitude towards AB. I see abstaining from anything as an implied deprivation of something that is desired. Rather than seeing not masturbating as a deprivation, I want to view it as a natural way to live. It's normal to be horny and full. I'm not depriving myself of anything, but rather enjoying the freedom from an undesired activity. Of course there will be times when I have an urge to get "relief". That's when mental toughness is necessary. Eventually there would be no need for attempts to avoid the behavior because there will be no desire for the behavior.

No addiction is ever resolved if there is long term craving for the undesired activity, behavior or substance. As an example, an alcoholic in long term recovery has no desire for alcohol. In fact there is a dislike for it. If there is a constant desire and craving, the recovery is doomed to failure. I think the same applies to MB.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:47 pm 
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I think an ex-alcoholic or an ex-smoker can value being free of the negative aspects of those addictions to the point where they find it distasteful and even repulsive to think about going back to them. They may actually become rather strong advocates of avoiding those addictions.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:07 pm 
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Texanguy, you are right. At one time, years ago, I drank too much alcohol every day. One day I had a "come to Jesus" moment and realized that it had become a problem. I craved alcohol every day, and drinking was getting in the way of what I wanted to accomplish. So I quit completely. It took probably about a year to have no desire for alcohol. Today I feel very comfortable around people who are drinking. I have absolutely no desire for it. Something happened that was unexpected. If I am at a party where everyone is drinking, I have found that as they "loosened up" the same thing happened to me, but without alcohol.

Day 23
So far this has been easy and pleasant. My gym workouts are more intense, and I have more energy. I stayed up until after 1:00am Wednesday night watching the World Series, and got up at 6 to go to the gym... and wasn't tired or drowsy all day.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:00 pm 
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Slider wrote:
Day 23
So far this has been easy and pleasant. My gym workouts are more intense, and I have more energy. I stayed up until after 1:00am Wednesday night watching the World Series, and got up at 6 to go to the gym... and wasn't tired or drowsy all day.


Good luck Slider, I have similar experiences. Feels like I can function on a lot less sleep than when I MB.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:46 pm 
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Thanks for the comment, Big_Dreamer1991.

Day 26
Moderately horny, but no strong urges. My mindset is that I'm over jerking off... done. I want to have a life not tied to looking for privacy so I can MB, or having the periods of being horny followed by MB and a letdown. I really want to just let my body take care of itself in whatever way it will, whether it's WD, SE, or slow leakage of semen. I would like for MB to be a thing of the past that I don't think about or want. It's not easy to change many years of a habit, especially when the desire can be fueled by natural urges, but I know it can be done if I really want it to happen.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:31 am 
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Manual self stimulation may not be that natural, more like a short circuit. It even uses the wrong muscles and motions. The letdown afterwards may be nature's way of discouraging MB. Perhaps nature also makes the unmasturbated state pleasurable and more energetic, etc, ideally along with WDs, as incentives and rewards for staying naturally ready and fertile.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:54 pm 
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Day 27

Just voted in the U.S. election. Feeling good today.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:22 pm 
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Day 28

Very tired from watching last night's election returns past 1:00am. Still went to the gym at 6 this morning. No urges, just fatigue right now.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:17 pm 
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Day 29

Horny as usual. I've noticed that my morning wood is more like morning steel, and it can last for an hour or more as long as I'm still in bed. When I get up, pee, and start moving around it goes down. During the day I don't feel much other than a vague euphoria along with increased energy... T-buzz.

I'm conflicted about counting the days. My goal is to completely stop MB permanently. If that's the case, day 29 should be no different from day 129 or 1029. Each day is just the way things are today, tomorrow and any time in the future. Counting days implies that this is a "run" or "streak", which will end. Also, in the past a large number of days has led me to feel that I had "earned" the right to MB and cum. On the other hand counting gives me a sense of accomplishment. Early in recovery from addiction, length of time markers are motivating. Later they become less important to think about. For now I'll keep counting.

I know forever is a very ambitious goal, but getting long streaks has not really worked for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:36 am 
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I think counting the days might just naturally become less and less interesting over time. But part of expressing and enjoying sexuality by never MBing can include the awareness and excitement of putting MB further and further behind. Perhaps at some point you might mention the week or month in your log entries here rather than the day.


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I agree fully. That is why i post days but i also refer to my journey as months also in my comments . After a while your mindset is more about going another full month ab free instead of counting days. You need to set a goal but sometimes thinking of days seems longer and you start convincing yourself that you deserve a mb and that is when you start going back to the mb cycle.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:59 pm 
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Day 33

Still feeling great and enjoying going natural.

Normally I aim my cock straight down. Recently I got some new bikini briefs which fit very snugly. My waist is 34" and I bought the 28-30" size. As an experiment I tried positioning my cock in different directions: straight up, angled up left or right, straight to one side or the other, etc. I enjoy the "different" feeling of having it in various positions. I was starting to feel "dick dead" and this makes life more interesting. It took awhile for a different position not to feel uncomfortable, but now all the positions have a different and pleasant feel to them.

One problem for me is that a full erection is more obvious in the up or side positions. This is made less obvious by leaving my shirt untucked. The whole experiment has made me more aware of my cock. For instance right now I'm very aware that it's aimed directly to the right and held snugly in place by the briefs.


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Day 34

Today, I'm more horny than before, no desire to MB. Or maybe it's a desire not to MB. Being more aware of how my little guy is positioned distracts me from thinking about MB/orgasm/ejaculation. I'm trying very hard to accept that this is not another "run", but just the way life is now. No MB... period. Just go with it, enjoy the feeling, and see what happens.


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Day 35

Had an intense workout at the gym this morning. I don't think I actually feel "horny" in that there is no urge or desire to relieve the feeling. It's more like an intermittent physical euphoria that's not so centered in my pelvic area.

I'm discovering things about how I place my guy. Straight down -> no boners. Straight up -> instant boner. To the left or right -> stays semi-hard for awhile then gradually drifts downward when flaccid. When I go to bed I place it up and to the right with the tip between the waistband and the right thigh elastic. This allows for a huge MW boner with no restriction on size due to tight briefs. In most cases things stay where I put them due to the tightness of the briefs. Getting used to different positions has been sexually stimulating without leading to edging or MB.


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Slider wrote:
This allows for a huge MW boner with no restriction on size due to tight briefs.
Of course, the ultimate 'no restriction' is sleeping nude, which is something that a lot of non-MBers seem to naturally gravitate towards.


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Day 36

Good suggestion, Texanguy, but if I slept nude I am certain I would MB within a few minutes.

Five completed weeks! Since my last MB on Oct 13 I have not been horny in the usual sense. To me to be truly horny means that there is significant sexual tension AND the desire to relieve it. I have been horny in the first sense, but not the second. There have been no occasions that I wanted to MB or cum, and no urges. I know it would feel good, but I don't want to do it and lose the pleasant level of sexual tension that is there all the time.

My mindset is that I'm not abstaining to reach a number of days, but rather staying on track to overcome an addiction. There will be no reward at the end of a streak or "reboot". And if this works, I won't ever want to MB again. There really is no forever, just one day at a time.


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Day 37

Summary to date:
MB - 0
T-buzz - +++
Edging - 0
Precum - +
WD - 0
SE - 0
Orgasm - 0
Ejaculation - 0
MW - ++++
Sex - 0
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Mental status - Feeling good, confident, energetic

This time I don't feel like I'm "abstaining". I'm moderately horny with no desire to do anything about it... just going with the feeling.
Caution to self: Don't become complacent. Stay strong and vigilant. One day at a time.


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Day 40

This seems to be going too well. Nothing but good feelings, and no urges. But I have to be vigilant and strong because I know urges can come at any time. Am I horny? Absolutely. Does it feel good. Definitely. Do I want to do anything about it? No way.


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The 'secret' that MB addicts don't know about is that it actually feels better to not keep 'short circuiting' yourself with MB. From a natural perspective, it shouldn't be surprising that sexuality is better expressed and enjoyed as a non-MBer.


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Day 41

Still feeling great. Right now I'm in a good state of equilibrium.


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Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 23 Oct 2018
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Day 47

No edging or release of any kind so far. Overall level of horniness seems to be increasing, but I'm still committed not to MB. How could day 47 be any different from day 46 or 48? Just another day. I really want to kick this addiction to MB... something I should have done when I was 16. Up until about age 16, MB was an experimental phase, learning how everything worked. Beyond that it has been an addiction.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
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Yes, feeling horny is natural and enjoyable, and can be experienced without an erection and while being totally turned off by MB.

What's unnatural is becoming addicted to endless MB-letdown cycles. Better to enjoy the energy and use it for working out, etc. At some point you may, like many other long term non-MBers, be able to enjoy sleeping nude with zero risk of MB.


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Thanks for the comments, Texanguy.

Day 48

Yesterday I had some strong feelings that I wanted to cum, but after a few hours it subsided. The physical part should be stable at this point: Maximum semen volume with slow overflow when I urinate. After this long how could I possibly hold more semen? So it's all psychological. Nothing physical really changes, just my response. It's going to take awhile to completely accept the horny and full feeling as the new normal. After all, except for several AB runs, I have ejaculated almost every day (or more) since I was about 14 or 15. Habits (addictions) are not easy to overcome. To succeed I must fully embrace the way things are now. Today I like the way it feels.

Something else I've noticed is the occasional feeling that I'm about to cum. It's the same sensation I've experienced while MBing where I've finished "climbing the hill", and I'm on a plateau about 10 to 15 seconds from cumming, but not at the point of no return. When this has happened, it only lasted for a few seconds, then went away.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
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Slider wrote:
Something else I've noticed is the occasional feeling that I'm about to cum. It's the same sensation I've experienced while MBing where I've finished "climbing the hill", and I'm on a plateau about 10 to 15 seconds from cumming, but not at the point of no return. When this has happened, it only lasted for a few seconds, then went away.

You may have an SE in your future, but even what you are experiencing now is something natural for ABers that is beyond the limited realm of what MB addicts can experience.


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Day 49

Things have settled down and now I'm feeling normally horny, energized, with a vague sense of euphoria... but no urge or desire to cum.

Something I've commented on before is that I've been experimenting with placing my "little guy" in different positions in my somewhat tight low rise briefs. Anything other than a normal for me, slightly down, neutral position creates "dick awareness". Somehow being aware of the position, which feels very different from the normal position, helps distract my attention from wanting to MB. It's a pleasant sexual feeling without resorting to MB. Right now it's straight up, and I'm very aware of the sensation. If you try this I would recommend tight briefs to help control boners, because different positions will trigger boners. And if it is very difficult to control, two pairs of briefs worn at the same time will help.


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Day 50... Seven complete weeks of going natural.

My equilibrium is stabilizing. So far I've only had one episode that I would call an urge, but that passed quickly. Right now I'm feeling good about the way my recovery is going. Being horny is slowly becoming very normal. And I have a strong desire not to MB.

"Forever" is still very young at 7 weeks. I have to get past more urges to cum in the future, and at this point I am confident I can do it. I need to keep that little MB devil in my head securely locked up and not let him have his way.


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