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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:23 pm 
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During my break from AB, I'm trying to limit MBO to Mon, Wed and Fri. Today's Monday so after 3 days of no MB I get to MB again. It's a good thing I can do it today because I'm unusually horny. Had a great upper body workout this AM at the gym.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:10 am 
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If you are unusually horny, then do it in an unusual way, ha ha :D

Kidding. Enjoy!


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:17 pm 
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I've been sticking with the Mon, Wed, Fri MB schedule, except last week I didn't get to MB on Monday, so I had to wait until Wednesday. Today I think I will do another "ruined orgasm"... haven't done one of those in awhile.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:54 am 
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I had a "ruined orgasm" 2 days ago and it felt very good. So good, that I'm going to do the same thing again today.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:11 pm 
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I haven't posted in almost a month, and have not had a WD. During that time I've limited MB to 3 times a week, Mon, Wed, Fri. Sometimes I don't have privacy on one of those days, so I have to skip that day. Today it's been 4 days since my last MB-Orgasm. All orgasms except one have been "ruined orgasms". Ruined is the wrong description for what I experience. The orgasm feels erotic and somewhat satisfying, but without semen expulsion. I am able to squeeze out a few drops of semen afterward. I would say that such an orgasm only removes half of the horniness that I was feeling before the orgasm. Since today is Monday, it's "ruined orgasm" day!


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:04 pm 
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Last "ruined" orgasm was 2 days ago. Today I get to do it again, but after today I'll have to hold it for 10 days due to lack of privacy. I've adjusted to release every 2 or 3 days, so 10 days seems like a long dry stretch. Should be fun...


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:15 pm 
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I'm on day 5 of an 11 days of AB (due to zero privacy), and I'm so horny I can hardly stand it. How could I go 249 days last year without release, and feel like I'm about to lose it on only day 5? I do remember that I almost caved on day 6 of the 249 run. At least I only have to hold it another 6 days.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:08 am 
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5 days gone, 5 to go. I really want to cum, but I can wait.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:25 pm 
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It's been 10 days since I last ejaculated due to lack of privacy. So now I'm in day 11, and alone in the house. Hmmmmm... what to do? For the last week and and a half I've wanted to cum but didn't. Now I'm free to do anything I want, but should I?

The good feelings of AB have started to sink in with less urge to cum or end the horniness. What I think I'll do is edge, but not too close to risk going over the edge. Maybe this is the start of trying to permanently end my MB addiction. But I'm getting ahead of myself. One day at a time.

Today I will not cum.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:02 am 
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Slider wrote:
The good feelings of AB have started to sink in with less urge to cum or end the horniness. What I think I'll do is edge, but not too close to risk going over the edge. Maybe this is the start of trying to permanently end my MB addiction.

Yep, there's something exciting about 'going natural'. Nature logically makes AB feel good. In your last long AB, you said you felt good, more energetic, and had better and more enthusiastic workouts. Because of that, you were perhaps healthier physically, mentally, and emotionally.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:31 pm 
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Thanks for the encouragement, Texanguy.

Day 12
Yesterday went well. I actually edged twice, once dry (no lubricants) and the other in the shower with soap. Both felt very good, but I was careful not to get too near the point of no return. After both edging sessions, I felt a diffuse, pleasant sense of horniness, but no urge to cum.

Today I might edge once. I know that I really should not edge, but the feeling is so good, and the horny after effects so pleasurable, it's hard to resist. Regardless of edging or not, my goal is to not cum for an extended period of time.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:47 pm 
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Day 18 Last edging 4 days ago, no touch since.

Do I ever NEED to cum? No.
Do I ever WANT to cum? Yes!
Can I overcome the desire to cum? Yes.
Does edging make AB from orgasm more or less pleasurable? More pleasurable.
Is it frustrating to edge and not ejaculate or orgasm? No, I feel better with edging.
Do I enjoy being horny? Yes.
Can I either ejaculate every day, or go for long periods without? Yes, but it took a long time to develop the determination to AB long term.
Overall, what's the best combination? No ejaculation, no orgasm, frequent edging with occasional edging breaks.
What's the difference between 1) jerking off every day, and 2) no orgasm or ejaculation but frequent edging? In the first case I feel pleasure for several seconds every 24 hours, but nothing in between. In the second case I feel (edging) pleasure for a few minutes, continuous enjoyable horniness, T-buzz, increased energy, reduced laziness and procrastination. I get more done when I'm horny.
Is there any downside to AB, edging and no release? Usually after a long period I decide to "clear the pipes", which means starting over. The first week after an ejaculation is difficult because I want to do it again, but then things settle down and life is good.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:46 pm 
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Day 21

I was too busy to edge yesterday, but today I plan to do some edging. At this moment I'm feeling very horny and full. Maybe a little stimulation will diffuse some of the tension.

Over the winter I managed to gain about 5 or 6 pounds, from 177 to 183. My best weight is 175. So my pledge to myself is that I will not cum until my weight is 175 or less. That should be an incentive to cut back on the junk food that I like so much. Maybe I will be able to stay away from the cookies.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:38 am 
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Day 22

I dry edged this morning very close to the point of no return. Then in the shower I did it again up to near the brink. It felt soooo good, and afterward I felt satisfied and relaxed, but still horny.

Will probably not edge again for 3 days.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:11 am 
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hold strong


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:33 am 
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Slider wrote:
Over the winter I managed to gain about 5 or 6 pounds, from 177 to 183. My best weight is 175. So my pledge to myself is that I will not cum until my weight is 175 or less. That should be an incentive to cut back on the junk food that I like so much. Maybe I will be able to stay away from the cookies.

A good reason to get away from MB (and even edging), is the increased energy and motivation to work out and improve your body AB can create. Becoming healthier can be a beneficial result of AB. Many (but not all) serious body builders don't MB in order to focus their energy on working out and to help keep their testosterone levels up.

I haven't seen any studies to show that not MBing directly helps create more muscle and a leaner body when working out, but there is indirect evidence because some studies show that AB increases testosterone, and it is known that higher testosterone can lead to bigger muscles and less body fat. Intensely working out also increases testosterone, and AB can increase the motivation to have intense workouts. Higher testosterone levels have also been shown to be correlated with more wet dreams.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:32 pm 
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Day 25
Thanks Texanguy and jessieboy for the comments and encouragement.

I didn't edge for the last 3 days, and today I'm horny with pressure symptoms. I was going to try no edging this week, but the desire to feel something is strong. Regardless of what I do, I am committed not to cum.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:47 pm 
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Day 27

I edged the last 2 days and it felt great during and after. No ejaculation and no squeezed out semen. I did have a significant amount of precum.

After a lot of practice, I've learned to edge close to the point of no return several times, then stop just short of ejaculation. The experience paradoxically is not frustrating, but rather satisfying. As soon as I stop and get my little guy put away, I feel a sense of well being. The horniness and fullness are still there, but I there is no urge to cum.

It's amazing the high that comes from semen retention and stimulation without ejaculation. And the good feeling persists throughout the day. Unlike jerking off, which ends abruptly with a very short-lived after effect.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:15 pm 
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Today marks 28 days of AB with no ejaculation. I have edged on most of the 28 days. At this point I feel like I'm in a state of equilibrium: always horny and full, but no urge to cum. I do have urges to edge because the stimulation feels so good. Stopping before cumming has become easier, especially since I always have the mindset before starting that I am definitely not going to cum. Before I learned how to successfully edge I would start a MB session thinking I would "try" to stop before cumming... that doesn't work. It takes a firm commitment before starting that orgasm and ejaculation will not happen. Then I can relax and enjoy the pleasure of stimulation for what it is, knowing I won't go over the edge.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:23 pm 
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Day 32

I didn't edge yesterday due to lack of time and privacy. But today I plan to edge in a few minutes. I seem to be in an equilibrium phase where things are stable and good. In the past I've felt this way only to have strong urges and temptations come back. So vigilance and determination are necessary. It would be so good just to keep things like they are now.


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:53 pm 
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Day 33

Feeling full, horny and lovin' it! And edging just keeps the fire burning hot.


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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2018 10:33 pm 
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Day 34

Just another day of going natural.


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:57 pm 
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Day 39

I didn't edge for the last 3 days, and wasn't feeling overly horny during that time. This morning the horniness is back, and it feels good. I thought about going no touch this week, but the desire to feel something is strong. Whatever happens, I'm committed not to cum. It's becoming clearer to me that semen retention is the key to extended sexual tension and pleasure. Ejaculation feels sooo good, but only for a few seconds, followed by a period of letdown, laziness and apathy. Semen retention without orgasm feels good all the time. And for me, edging just enhances the good feeling.


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Day 40

Yesterday I edged twice, once dry and the other soapy wet. Both felt great, each time approaching the point of no return. Does it seem odd that overall I feel better when I don't cum than when I do? There is more flexibility in not cumming. I can edged at any time, multiple times a day, occasionally, or never... and I'm always ready to do it. There's no refractory period.

If anyone wants to comment, advise or share experiences, feel free to do so.


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 1:38 am 
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I think nature prefers its males to be fertile and 'ready' over 'empty', which means that while an orgasm can be pleasurable, nature makes it also pleasurable to stay horny. Other positive aspects of AB, such more energy, more confidence, and desire to workout and improve your body, might be seen as further indications that it is the naturally preferred state. And of course there are hormonal differences.

A big difference between sex and MB is that guys having sex in situations where it fits with their personal values in significant relationships don't describe a 'post-sex letdown' the way MBers may often describe the negative letdown and the 'why did I do that' feeling they get after MB.

More to the point here, those lucky enough to get full blown WDs often feel excited, horny, and rewarded after a WD, and are immediately totally eager and ready to have another one as soon as possible. There is normally no 'post-WD letdown'. In 'nofap' sites guys often refer to the 'chaser effect' after a WD, where a WD makes them even more horny than before, not less.

Another interesting observation is that guys on extended 'nofap', who eventually have sex after months of AB, often report that they might ejaculate very quickly or even before 'insertion'. But then they may have sex 2, 3, or even 4 times in one night -- something they could never have done as MBers. And if they had resumed MB rather than having sex, they would probably not have been interested in (or even able to) MB that many times in one night.

The whole 'MB --AB--Sex--WDs' thing seems to be more complicated than people normally assume. But overall, it seems to be that AB is normal, and that sex and WDs are quite similar while MB is different. MB seems to end horniness and create letdowns more than AB, WDs, or sex do.

One more thing is the 'stimulation' difference. An MBer normally uses 'manual stimulation', which may become pretty fast at the end. A guy having sex (either awake or in WDs) who never MBs normally finds pelvic thrusts to be the ideal stimulation, with completely different motion, muscles, and nerve stimulation than in MB. He may have to thrust rather slow (or even pause at times) in order to prolong the act and maximize the feelings.

Question: AB can be more 'sexual' than MB. Given the observations above, might it be argued that AB is closer to having sex than MB is?


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Day 41

Texanguy, thanks for the very thoughtful comments. As for your question, I absolutely agree that AB is more sexual than MB. Consider this analogy: An electric circuit has a "hot" wire and a ground wire. There is a motor in this circuit running on low speed. This is like a normally horny man... If the ground wire touches the hot wire, the circuit breaker immediately trips, causing the motor to completely stop (MB). The breaker has to be manually reset, which could take some time. During this time the circuit is "cold" and the motor doesn't run. On the other hand, if there is a WD, the motor speeds up to high, then returns to low speed, but never stops. The circuit has never been short circuited.

When I AB I have many episodes of increased sexual tension, but never have zero sexual feelings. My motor runs constantly.


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Writing down thoughts or observations is a way of continuing or evolving them. Your 'motor and circuit breaker' analogy seems to fit, including the idea that MB trips the circuit breaker in ways that other forms of 'motor spinning' don't. In your analogy, guys who are able to get frequent WDs can repeatedly spin their motor at a higher speeds than MB can without ever tripping their breaker.

Edging can be seen as a form of 'motor spinning', but it's a form that spins the motor by getting ever closer to tripping the breaker as the only way to spin the motor. The trick is to learn to spin the motor without even getting close to tripping the breaker. You went for months without edging before, and kept your motor spinning pretty well.

From your post in the other topic: "the best recipe for a wet dream is 1) young age, but going through puberty 2) not masturbating or edging 3) sleeping nude."

You are not that far away from 1), but apparently have never seriously tried 2) and 3). People don't do 2) and 3) just for WDs, they do them because they speed up their motors a bit without tripping any breakers, which incidentally helps predispose them to some potentially pretty high breaker-free motor spinning via WDs.

Perhaps I have taken this 'motor spinning-circuit breaker' past its limits. But a takeaways is "Learn how to enjoy spinning your motor without tripping your circuit breaker".


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Well said, Texanguy.

Day 42

Yesterday I only edged once. It's taken several years and many months of AB at various times to develop the skill to edge pleasurably and successfully. When I first started edging, I would think, as the level of arousal increased, that I could stop. Then when the moment just before the point of no return arrived I would again say to myself, "I can stop!". But BAM, I'd go over the edge... done. Now I can approach the PNR a number of times and then stop without any frustration about not cumming. It just feels good. I haven't had an accidental orgasm / ejaculation in a long time. When I have ended AB, it was usually a conscious decision to MBO, and not an edging session taken too far.

Today I will not cum.


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Day 46 No orgasm or ejaculation
Day 5 No edging

The first few days without edging I was very busy and didn't think about that much. But now I'm alone in the house and feeling uber horny, and it feels good. I'm not making a commitment not to edge, because it feels good to do it, but not today. Maybe I could substitute upper body touching, with no touching below the waist.


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Slider wrote:
Day 46 No orgasm or ejaculation
Day 5 No edging

The first few days without edging I was very busy and didn't think about that much. But now I'm alone in the house and feeling uber horny, and it feels good. I'm not making a commitment not to edge, because it feels good to do it, but not today. Maybe I could substitute upper body touching, with no touching below the waist.

I think that it's natural to get away from edging. You can feel a more prolonged 'full body' horniness without it, and if you go long enough without it, it becomes less desirable as well as too risky. You may even find yourself able to sleep naked without risk of slipping up.


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