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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:19 pm 
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Day 10

Things are going well, except I'm not as horny as I would like to be. I would like to have an episode of strong urges in order to deal with them early-on during my no release plan. The edging is taking its toll on my little guy. A small fissure has developed on the shaft due to excessive stimulation and stroking. Dry stroking (moving the skin of the shaft back and forth over the glans) doesn't cause "wear and tear", but friction stroking (with soap and water) causes problems.

Even so, I'll edge twice today as usual. Could it be that edging provides its own satisfaction, and as a result, horniness is reduced??


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:44 am 
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You know that it felt better when you went over 200 days without MB or edging.

Except for your concern about prostatitis that led you to MB, you'd probably be still be on that path and enjoying it more than what you are doing now. You might even be having regular WDs by now.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:49 am 
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You know that it felt better when you went over 200 days without MB or edging.

Except for your concern about prostatitis that led you to MB, you'd probably be still be on that path and enjoying it more than what you are doing now. You might even be having regular WDs by now.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:32 am 
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I know what you say is true, Texanguy, but I'm having too much fun edging to stop at this time.

2 weeks without release. Horniness is getting stronger, and I'm getting better at edging. Sometimes I'll float at the peak of the wave for a few minutes using short bursts of stimulation (2 or 3 strokes every 5 seconds). It's amazing! And still no orgasm or ejaculation. I like always being ready, with no refractory period as occurs after ejaculation.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:34 am 
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As long as you are not prepared to go completely natural yet, why not use your edging to head that way in one respect?

Compared to the natural pelvic thrusts used in sex, the high speed manual stimulation during masturbation is obviously different, excessive, and unnatural. It is so unnatural that masturbators may have trouble having sex, or at least not enjoy it as much. On the other hand, 'nofap' converts who finally have sex will tell you that sex as a non-MBer feels much better than MB. And they can have several 'repeat performances' in one night.

You have enough experience with long term AB to know that the 'jackhammer' high speed thrusting you see in some porn videos is actually what MBers have to do to reach orgasm. For a guy who never MBs and hasn't had sex in months, such high speed thrusting would end it all in seconds. The only way he could extend and enjoy the sex would be to 'ride the wave' with controlled long, slow pelvic thrusts -- the exact opposite of MB.

Some guys regularly engage in something called 'Karezza', which is prolonged sex without orgasm and ejaculation. They of course have no refractory period, and are always ready to do it again.

So if you 'have to' edge, why not use pelvic thrusts in your edging exclusively, and retrain yourself to the point where old fashioned high speed jerking is no longer interesting and becomes a total turn off?


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:33 am 
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Interesting info, Texanguy.

Day 24 - No release

I've had to cut the edging back to once per day because too much rubbing and stimulation caused skin abrasions on my penis. Also, the control over how I edge has improved. With lots of practice I can get just short of the point of no return in a brief time, then carefully and slowly stimulate to maintain the "almost there" feeling for longer than I previously could. When I have finished edging, I have not had an orgasm or ejaculated, but I feel more relaxed and satisfied than before edging. The horniness is still there, as well as the fullness.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:26 am 
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4 weeks completed with no release.

I'm going to change my edging this week, at least, and not get as close to the point of no return. It seems that if I get very close, but don't have an orgasm or ejaculation, I sometimes can express 1 or 2 drops of semen when I stop. In order to retain all semen possible, I'll stop edging long before I am nearing the PNR. Then I can usually express some precum, but no semen.

For the last 3 days I have been edging as described above, and notice that I'm more horny than when I get very close to the PNR. And that's what I want... to be uber horny all the time.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:42 pm 
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I think it's difficult to be 'uber horny' ALL the time. It would be difficult to stay horny if armed robbers broke into your house when you were there, or you got into a traffic accident. You may not feel particularly horny if you are busy and intellectually engaged at work, or even just while watching an absorbing movie.

But I think the thing is that whenever you 'reach for it', it's there. You can feel it. The horniness is intact. I recall times when I would go back to MB for a while after a long AB period. I would try to 'feel it', and it was gone. I missed it. Then it would come back after ABing for a while. Of course, now that I've gone completely natural, I don't have that problem any more.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:49 am 
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Day Day 30

You're exactly right, Texanguy. I should have said that I want to be uber horny whenever I think about it. Like you said, it's right there. It's especially good to feel it when I'm lying in bed and focusing on how much sexual tension I have.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:52 am 
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Day 36

I didn't edge yesterday, and plan not to edge for one week. I did a little nipple play, but nothing below the waist. The combination of no direct stimulation (edging) but with nipple play has left me more horny than I have been in a long time. And with more precum, too.

Lying in bed this morning, I had a 5 second or so feeling like I could suddenly cum (without any stimulation), but nothing happened.

The way I feel now is exactly what I was hoping for.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
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Day 42

No touch for the last week. My level of horniness is high, but enjoyable. I'm almost afraid to edge at this point because things could be very sensitive, and easy to trigger.

The best thing is I'm managing to have complete semen retention.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:45 am 
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Day 46 - No release
Day 12 - No touch

I'm feeling good about this AB run. Horny and full, but not wanting to cum. My goal this time is to get to the point that I feel like I just can't hold it any longer... then, with all my will power, keep on holding it for an hour, a day, a week or longer. In past runs, I would reach a point at which I really needed to cum. This time I want to get well beyond that point, and then go much longer. There is no end point. For me it's a turn on to know that this time next year I could still have the same full load of semen that I have now. I'm going to give it my best effort.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:37 am 
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Sounds like 'going natural' is feeling better and more exciting. I think after a while edging becomes both too risky and not that exciting. It's natural to continue to enjoy the fullness and horniness without edging. Even if you don't accidentally cum while edging, separating horniness from edging makes it better.

You can still get WDs. If you look at Guestyboi's log, he went 120 days without a WD. Then he got one 8 days later, and then again 5 days after that. And he's still going for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:01 am 
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Day 51 - No orgasm or ejaculation
Day 17 - No touch

Thanks Texanguy, for the encouragement.
I'm becoming more comfortable with not masturbating or having release. I still get very horny at times, but then it subsides. Overall I'm more energetic, and have a better mood than when I jerk off every day. I've written this before, but it's worth repeating. Long term AB is like a mood enhancing drug with no cost, no adverse side effects, and it's non-addicting. I also seem to enjoy my masculinity more when I'm horny.

By no touch I mean no erotic stimulation below the waist. I do enjoy light touching of my chest and nipples. It gives me a good feeling, but is in no way an attempt to have a "hands free" orgasm.


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 Post subject: Re: Slider's Journal
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:46 am 
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Slider wrote:
I still get very horny at times, but then it subsides.
I think over time horniness separates from a desire to MB. I can feel extremely horny and have no desire to MB or edge whatsoever, and in fact 'jerking it' seems pretty unappealing now.
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Overall I'm more energetic, and have a better mood than when I jerk off every day. I've written this before, but it's worth repeating. Long term AB is like a mood enhancing drug with no cost, no adverse side effects, and it's non-addicting.
It only makes sense that AB is natural. I don't think nature wants us to be frequent, endless MBers, and so makes us feel better without MB.
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I also seem to enjoy my masculinity more when I'm horny.
feeling masculine can help motivate you to work out more and watch your diet, both positive things. When you're ready, you might try doing what a lot of long term ABers do, sleep naked. No rush getting dressed in the morning. And no problem getting ready for bed well before turning in. It can also help motivate you to get in shape.


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