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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:53 am 
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Precum Production: Little Precum (1-2 drops before ejaculation)
Average time to orgasm/ejaculation normally: 5
Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Boxers
Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: no
If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 3-4 hours
Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 17 Jan 2014
Sex: Male
So it's not uncommon for people to start having wet dreams before discovering how to masturbate. They'd have the ability to masturbate but aren't, meaning they're essentially abing, and having wds as a result.

So I was wondering if anyone here was in that situation long enough to remember anything and could compare that experience to the experience they've had doing it on purpose. Did you feel relieved/different at all after having a wd? Did you get more boners and more sexual thoughts/feelings as time went on? Was the experience of not mbing and then having wds the same as it is now except that you didn't know that mb was a possibility?

Or maybe there have been people who discovered mb, so their brains knew what it was all about, but who maybe lost interest and stopped, or only did it like once a month or something, but when they weren't mbing it wasn't a conscious decision. Or people who were mbing but then because they were busy or because of roommates or military or whatever the reason stopped mbing (but again, who didn't make it a conscious decision, it was just something that happened).

Basically what I'm trying to get at is separating the physiological and psychological side of abing, and it's relationship with wds. People with these different experiences are kind of like control groups isolating different variables.

For most of us here right now, ab itself is a sexual activity because we're aware of what the goal is. Does that fact increase our sexualness (sorry can't think of a better word for this)? Does the guy who just accidentally doesn't mb for a few months have increased sexualness? Is the increased sexualness because of a chemical relationship we've established in our brains from mbing, or is it something that happens even without that? If someone who "ab"ed before discovering mb didn't have increased sexualness but still had a lot of wds, then it means that that aspect probably isn't a factor in getting wds. If ab causes super intense boner activity while sleeping because of the increased sexualness, then what does it mean if the young person had wds but no increased sexualness? Is increased sexualness during the day psychological, and at night (when wds actually happen) physiological?

Is there anyone who actually did mb regularly but still got wds regularly? How did overall sexualness levels during that time compare to when you were older, and how does that all compare with while you've abed?


Unfortunately I don't have any insights on this because I started mbing pretty much as soon as I was able (I think), mbed regularly since, and only had one random wd. But maybe comparing these experiences will help us better understand what actually causes wds.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:53 pm 
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Age: 43
Number of wet dreams you've experienced: 6
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Precum Production: Some Precum (2-4 drops before ejaculation)
Average time to orgasm/ejaculation normally: 5
Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Nude - no underwear
Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: no
If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 4-5 hours
Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 16 Jun 2016
Sex: Male
Hey qubeley,
This is an interesting question. Time will tell but i guess you will get too few answer to get some conclusion, maybe at most a rough idea.
Sexual behaviour have a strong correlation with psychology, Thus it's strongly related to people character and mood. I won't even talk about bias of memories.
I'm 43 so memories from my teens are not really accurate, I don't tall about events but states of mind during events
So i don't know what you will get as results :confusion-shrug:
as far I remember:
As a teen
I had WD before MB - i Don't remember how many or how often
At the time i didn't knew exactly what they were but i knew about semen so i probably made the connection between semen and stains
I don't remember waking up at that time, i was noticing stains and sticky stuff in the morning
I stop to have WD as soon i did start MB.
Thus did not have WD for almost 30yrs
As adults
First WD was September 2015.
I had two, two night in row, i was AB for +/- 60 days and stop AB after the second one.
I was reading the forum but was not a member
At that time a was really focused about being horny but not MB and was waiting for WD.
Then i was still trying to MB less but be very horny trying to edge (i'm not really good it :obscene-sexualspermblue: ) I have also learn nipples play, and then Hands free
I resumed AB : june 16th 2016, signed in here: july, 28th 2016, started my journal: 25 Aug 2016.
I had my first release which was a WD at day 133.
Compared to Teens WD i did and still do wake up before cuming (i feel few "pumping" and then cum-if i do)
I'm not sure what is sexualness to you
up to my first WD as adult i was very focused on horniness and wanted to have a WD but it was more about horniness.
After second WD i was even less focused about WD ( too random to care about )
After few month i do care less about horniness too
horniness come and go. It comes and go very fast
When it comes can end in SE/HF
WD always caught me by surprise : I'm not horny, not necessarily during Weekend (when more relaxed).
No particular sexual events: no porn, i come to the forum and the chat everyday for hours (more like an everyday thing not or rarely aroused any more), not looking for sex (not arousal from person i might see during the say)

If you need more details ask....


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:07 am 
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Age: 28
Number of wet dreams you've experienced: 280
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Precum Production: Some Precum (2-4 drops before ejaculation)
Average time to orgasm/ejaculation normally: 2
Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Boxer briefs
Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: yes
If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 3-4 hours
Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 03 Jul 2017
Sex: Male
For me....

I started WDing when I was in grade 4 (christmas week) -- clearly remember because my "first time" was 4 WDs in 3 consecutive nights. I was just under 11 years old (christmas is December, birthday in January).

I didn't start MB until I was already in grade 10. I don't recall exactly when, I just remember by the time I had grade 10 PE class (second part of year), I was already a regular MBer, and when the coach joked about "doing you know what to keep your hormones in check", I understood.

So basically, I was WDing for 6 years at an average of 3-6 a month. It kept me incheck and happy. I was satisfied with WD alone.

When I fell upon MB and started MBing very regularly (more then 3-6 a month), I started losing appreciation for the orgasm and release/etc. All the good things brought on by a release. The "overusing" it is what diminished it for me.

I can compare it to a child in anticipation of christmas for a gift. Sometime the anticipation and build up is better then the gift itself. If the child can have anything he wants at anytime, you ruin him for gifts and the traits that go with anticipation of something good.

Just some of my thoughts...

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2017 MB=2, WD=12/13, SE=4
...last
WD 7/3
SE 7/14
MB 2/22
...
2014- MB=24,WD=3,SE=15
2013- MB=30,WD=4,SE=17
2012- MB=33,WD=4,SE=9
2011- MB=40,WD=6,SE=14
<2010- lots of MB, no WD/SE
11-15Y-age,no MB -about WD 1-2 a week


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:54 pm 
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Precum Production: Little Precum (1-2 drops before ejaculation)
Average time to orgasm/ejaculation normally: 5
Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Boxers
Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: no
If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 3-4 hours
Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 17 Jan 2014
Sex: Male
charlythemoose: Memory is definitely a difficult thing, especially as time passes. For some things my memories are very sharp and accurate and for some things I only remember the general emotional or state of mind aspect like you said. And then for some things I've thought about them so much since then that I don't even remember what my state of mind actually was at the time. But for this I think the hardest part will be that at the time someone wouldn't think it was something important to remember, and so it was never really put to memory in the first place. I'm pretty sure there are at least a few other people who were in the situations I described so hopefully they'll post and we'll be able to learn something.

By "sexualness" I mean hornyness, but more than that. The types of heightened sexual feelings that you have when ABing. So people talk about feeling fuller, or making precum even when they're not really aroused, or feeling more energetic or jittery, or having random super boners, or having SEs. So by sexualness I just mean a heightened sense of sexuality.

jessieboy (I almost typed jessietheboy :p ): How did not MBing at the time compare with not MBing later as an adult? How do WDs compare? Would you say that everything was exactly the same between now (you're successfully ABing and having WDs) and then except back then you didn't know how to MB? When you were younger did you have pent up sexual energy/horniness because you weren't MBing, or did you not because your body didn't really understand sexual feelings outside of WDs (I mean now your brain knows that it can have an orgasm within a few minutes by MBing, but maybe back then it didn't)?

Your case is also interesting because you started MBing, but not very often. At least for me after a few days I start to feel the effects of AB, and if I only MBed 3-6 times a month I'd feel like I was in AB mode most of the time. From what you're saying it sounds like the way you felt really started to change once you started MBing regularly.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:23 pm 
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Average time to orgasm/ejaculation normally: 8
Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Briefs
Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: no
If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 5-6 hours
Sex: Male
I had about 100 WDs in about 2 1/2 years before I learned to MB. I enjoyed WDs and looked forward to them but did not feel a sense of relief after them except one time when I went about a month without one. As mentioned, I was having them about every 9 days (100 times in 2 1/2 years). It wasn't unusual for me to have them two days in a row and then not again for 10 days. But the time I went a month (I was keeping track of them on a calendar), I started to get worried at about two weeks. Then on about the 29th day, I woke up with a WD and after that the frequency was the same as before. If any good came of this long interval, it was that it got me to reading about WDs and male puberty, and this led to me learning to MB about a year later.

Once I MB for the first time, I had a WD the next day and then again four days after that. Then I made MB a daily habit and have never had another WD. I didn't notice a difference in my frequency of erections before or after I started MB.

WDs would happen most often on Saturday mornings when I could sleep late. I never found WDs annoying except maybe one or two that woke me up hours before I was supposed to get up. Most of the time I would go right back to sleep after a WD but sometimes they would happen around the time I was supposed to get up.

I was happy to have WDs while I had them but I like MB and IC a lot better. I regret that I didn't start sooner.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:25 pm 
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Precum Production: Little Precum (1-2 drops before ejaculation)
Average time to orgasm/ejaculation normally: 5
Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Boxers
Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: no
If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 3-4 hours
Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 17 Jan 2014
Sex: Male
That's really interesting. So basically everything was the same except the orgasms from WDs were replaced by orgasms from MB.

Or in other words, the "symptoms" of adults ABing are at most indirectly related to having WDs, because during your "AB" you didn't experience those things.


Did your WDs seem to be following a cycle? For example every 8 days a 3 day window would open during which you could have one or more WD? Or was it very sporadic, like waiting 1 day, then 3 days, then 10 days, then 5 days, then 12 days, then 2 days?


And do you have any general thoughts about why your first "AB" lead to frequent WDs while adults ABing doesn't? What do you think the difference is other than the absence of MB?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:57 am 
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Precum Production: Some Precum (2-4 drops before ejaculation)
Average time to orgasm/ejaculation normally: 8
Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Briefs
Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: no
If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 5-6 hours
Sex: Male
No cycle. I might have them two days in a row and then not again for 10 days. Interval was very random.

My theory is that there is a cardinal frequency of ejaculation that leads to the permanent end of wet dreams. I have discussed this on my wet dream page at http://www.healthystrokes.com/wetdreams.html, and it was picked up in an article published in the Journal of Sex Research, the most prestigious sexology journal.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:37 pm 
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Precum Production: Little Precum (1-2 drops before ejaculation)
Average time to orgasm/ejaculation normally: 5
Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Boxers
Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: no
If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 3-4 hours
Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 17 Jan 2014
Sex: Male
Interesting. :)

I didn't realize that that was your site, I've run across it before. I noticed that you don't think that guys can get wet dreams after starting to masturbate frequently, but what do you make of this site, where many of the guys who successfully abstain start getting somewhat regular wet dreams (even if for some it never happens or takes a really long time)?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:34 am 
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Average time to orgasm/ejaculation normally: 8
Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Briefs
Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: no
If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 5-6 hours
Sex: Male
In general, I advise males that they won't have WD again once they stop having them. As you can see from correspondence with readers I've included on my site, occasionally older males have wet dreams after years or decades of MB & IC. The reports of WDs here on WDF often seem exaggerated. Even if they are to be believed, those reports represent a small fraction of the males signed up for WDF.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:15 pm 
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Precum Production: Little Precum (1-2 drops before ejaculation)
Average time to orgasm/ejaculation normally: 5
Underwear worn when going to sleep.: Boxers
Have you ever had a spontaneous ejaculation?: no
If you've had a wet dream before, when did it occur after falling asleep?: 3-4 hours
Date that you last had an orgasm/ejaculation.: 17 Jan 2014
Sex: Male
Thanks, it actually never occurred to me that that would be a possibility but it definitely is.


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